Comments on: Non-Clinical Opportunities for Physicians http://www.studentdoctor.net/2008/05/non-clinical-opportunities-for-phyisicians/ An educational community for students and doctors spanning all the health professions. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 05:10:17 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: anonymous#? http://www.studentdoctor.net/2008/05/non-clinical-opportunities-for-phyisicians/#comment-8260 anonymous#? Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:41:51 +0000 http://studentdoctor.net/blog/2008/05/17/non-clinical-opportunities-for-phyisicians/#comment-8260 Dr. Kim, thanks for your site! I fell ill in medical school with a rare neurological disease misdiagnosed as stress/depression. I have my MD but am still recovering and am way too fatigued at this point to even think about applying into residency or even an intern or transitional year. With each passing year, I become more concerned that I will at some point not even qualify to apply into residency, should my health miraculously return to normal. Any suggestions? I enjoy writing. I also enjoy creating artwork and am thinking about selling my work on a site called Etsy, but haven't tried it yet. Thanks again for your site! Dr. Kim, thanks for your site!
I fell ill in medical school with a rare neurological disease misdiagnosed as stress/depression. I have my MD but am still recovering and am way too fatigued at this point to even think about applying into residency or even an intern or transitional year. With each passing year, I become more concerned that I will at some point not even qualify to apply into residency, should my health miraculously return to normal.
Any suggestions? I enjoy writing. I also enjoy creating artwork and am thinking about selling my work on a site called Etsy, but haven’t tried it yet.
Thanks again for your site!

]]> By: yinka http://www.studentdoctor.net/2008/05/non-clinical-opportunities-for-phyisicians/#comment-8197 yinka Tue, 22 Sep 2009 09:47:06 +0000 http://studentdoctor.net/blog/2008/05/17/non-clinical-opportunities-for-phyisicians/#comment-8197 any chance for a doctor that has his licence revoked? any chance for a doctor that has his licence revoked?

]]> By: WILLIAM MAZZEI III http://www.studentdoctor.net/2008/05/non-clinical-opportunities-for-phyisicians/#comment-7651 WILLIAM MAZZEI III Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:50:28 +0000 http://studentdoctor.net/blog/2008/05/17/non-clinical-opportunities-for-phyisicians/#comment-7651 I read with great interest many of the comments here. I have practiced medicine as a family doctor since 1997. I have decided to transition out of clinical practice. It's quite a daunting task when seeing patients is the only work you have ever known and you have so much invested in medicine as a career and as a much more. Many times, though we may not see it, we are defined by our work as doctors. I wanted to comment because I feel that physicians are so fragmented and impotent as a group to effect important changes that need to occur in the best interest of us as doctors. When this happens we will be in the best position possible to dictate how we take care of people. We are certainly not in control of medicine now. That is not why I want to transition my career, but how can we as doctors ever hope to do what we think is best for our patients when we have lost control of our business ? We have no powerful voice that speaks for, advocates on behalf of, or echoes our collective concerns. We have no war chest to tap into that can compete with the corporate monolith of Goliath. It is worth noting that Mayo clinic does not accept medicare as payment for services. Do you need to ask why this is so ? I hope that in some way we can start to help each other as much as we help our patients. Perhaps some of us will start with a blank piece of paper and pen how each of us would like to see our ideal practice. Does anyone really disagree with the idea of doctor controlling medicine ? I have heard the arguments of fraud and abuse that put down this idea. Well, if this is ones logic, we should dispose of all branches of government. I would appreciate your sharing any resources that you have which may help me in my transition. I read with great interest many of the comments here. I have practiced medicine as a family doctor since 1997. I have decided to transition out of clinical practice.
It’s quite a daunting task when seeing patients is the only work you have ever known and you have so much invested in medicine as a career and as a much more.
Many times, though we may not see it, we are defined by our work as doctors.
I wanted to comment because I feel that physicians are so fragmented and impotent as a group to effect important changes that need to occur in the best interest of us as doctors. When this happens we will be in the best position possible to dictate how we take care of people.
We are certainly not in control of medicine now.
That is not why I want to transition my career, but how can we as doctors ever hope to do what we think is best for our patients when we have lost control of our business ?
We have no powerful voice that speaks for, advocates on behalf of, or echoes our collective concerns.
We have no war chest to tap into that can compete with the corporate monolith of Goliath.
It is worth noting that Mayo clinic does not accept medicare as payment for services. Do you need to ask why this is so ?
I hope that in some way we can start to help each other as much as we help our patients.
Perhaps some of us will start with a blank piece of paper and pen how each of us would like to see our ideal practice.
Does anyone really disagree with the idea of doctor controlling medicine ?
I have heard the arguments of fraud and abuse that put down this idea.
Well, if this is ones logic, we should dispose of all branches of government.

I would appreciate your sharing any resources that you have which may help me in my transition.

]]> By: Dr. Joseph Kim http://www.studentdoctor.net/2008/05/non-clinical-opportunities-for-phyisicians/#comment-7072 Dr. Joseph Kim Mon, 01 Jun 2009 01:45:31 +0000 http://studentdoctor.net/blog/2008/05/17/non-clinical-opportunities-for-phyisicians/#comment-7072 MN, There are many re-entry programs for physicians who have completed residency training. I think given the fact that you did not complete, it will be very difficult (but probably not impossible) for you to re-enter. Start with your medical school and see what type of information you can find there. Best of luck to you. MN, There are many re-entry programs for physicians who have completed residency training. I think given the fact that you did not complete, it will be very difficult (but probably not impossible) for you to re-enter. Start with your medical school and see what type of information you can find there. Best of luck to you.

]]> By: MN http://www.studentdoctor.net/2008/05/non-clinical-opportunities-for-phyisicians/#comment-6954 MN Fri, 08 May 2009 20:39:07 +0000 http://studentdoctor.net/blog/2008/05/17/non-clinical-opportunities-for-phyisicians/#comment-6954 Dear Dr. Kim, I came across your great article here just now (2009). Thank you for taking your time and your sincerity in empathizing with the readers. I graduated from med school in 1989 but through a strange destiny went on the lesser trodden path of being a non-clinical professional. Given the current economic climate, the grass looks greener on the other side- as a clinician! I have been so out of it and cannot picture myself in any specialty now without lots of training. Any advice on how to start- any residency training programs geared for re-entrants/older graduates for instance? CMEs would not be adequate and I was thinking more in lines of foreign graduates who simply have to all undergo basic training in the US again. Thanks Kim Dear Dr. Kim,

I came across your great article here just now (2009). Thank you for taking your time and your sincerity in empathizing with the readers. I graduated from med school in 1989 but through a strange destiny went on the lesser trodden path of being a non-clinical professional.

Given the current economic climate, the grass looks greener on the other side- as a clinician! I have been so out of it and cannot picture myself in any specialty now without lots of training. Any advice on how to start- any residency training programs geared for re-entrants/older graduates for instance? CMEs would not be adequate and I was thinking more in lines of foreign graduates who simply have to all undergo basic training in the US again.

Thanks Kim

]]> By: stylo http://www.studentdoctor.net/2008/05/non-clinical-opportunities-for-phyisicians/#comment-6953 stylo Fri, 08 May 2009 20:28:08 +0000 http://studentdoctor.net/blog/2008/05/17/non-clinical-opportunities-for-phyisicians/#comment-6953 Dea Kim , i've just came across this article of your's , i'm a foreign medical graduate in U.S who unforunately couldn't persue practising lisence to practise / get into match/ work as a doctor, after that heartbreak which happened end of 2008 i'm now planning to do MPH now as i just can't think of anthing other than serving the community at my best, i'm totally blank as to how get into MPH program , can u suggest me anything ? i'll try sendin u PM as well , any sort of advice would be helful for me thanks Dea Kim , i’ve just came across this article of your’s , i’m a foreign medical graduate in U.S who unforunately couldn’t persue practising lisence to practise / get into match/ work as a doctor, after that heartbreak which happened end of 2008 i’m now planning to do MPH now as i just can’t think of anthing other than serving the community at my best, i’m totally blank as to how get into MPH program , can u suggest me anything ? i’ll try sendin u PM as well , any sort of advice would be helful for me thanks

]]> By: Joseph Kim, MD, MPH http://www.studentdoctor.net/2008/05/non-clinical-opportunities-for-phyisicians/#comment-6886 Joseph Kim, MD, MPH Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:56:11 +0000 http://studentdoctor.net/blog/2008/05/17/non-clinical-opportunities-for-phyisicians/#comment-6886 David, my apologies, but I am not very familiar with the opportunities in London. However, it sounds like you want to focus on epidemiology, so I would suggest that you pursue an MPH. Upon graduation, I would think that you'd have many job opportunities. Best of luck to you. David, my apologies, but I am not very familiar with the opportunities in London. However, it sounds like you want to focus on epidemiology, so I would suggest that you pursue an MPH. Upon graduation, I would think that you’d have many job opportunities. Best of luck to you.

]]> By: David at LSHTM http://www.studentdoctor.net/2008/05/non-clinical-opportunities-for-phyisicians/#comment-6880 David at LSHTM Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:12:44 +0000 http://studentdoctor.net/blog/2008/05/17/non-clinical-opportunities-for-phyisicians/#comment-6880 Dear sir and madam I am general practitioner and I want to know what opportunity i have if i take a master in tropical medicine and international healt in London. thank you yours faithfully Dear sir and madam
I am general practitioner and I want to know what opportunity i have if i take a master in tropical medicine and international healt in London.
thank you
yours faithfully

]]> By: PM http://www.studentdoctor.net/2008/05/non-clinical-opportunities-for-phyisicians/#comment-6814 PM Mon, 20 Apr 2009 14:02:45 +0000 http://studentdoctor.net/blog/2008/05/17/non-clinical-opportunities-for-phyisicians/#comment-6814 Dr Kim, Thanks for your response.Yes,I do believe that the right connections help in this quest and Research positions too are a good way to begin.Thanks again. Dr Kim,

Thanks for your response.Yes,I do believe that the right connections help in this quest and Research positions too are a good way to begin.Thanks again.

]]> By: Joseph Kim, MD, MPH http://www.studentdoctor.net/2008/05/non-clinical-opportunities-for-phyisicians/#comment-6701 Joseph Kim, MD, MPH Mon, 06 Apr 2009 00:05:24 +0000 http://studentdoctor.net/blog/2008/05/17/non-clinical-opportunities-for-phyisicians/#comment-6701 PM, I know of several different foreign medical graduates who have landed excellent positions in the area you have described. It's hard to describe how each has gotten there because it really does vary. Some people have the right connections. For others, they may start with some research in academia (USA university). These are just a few examples of how people eventually reach these goals. PM, I know of several different foreign medical graduates who have landed excellent positions in the area you have described. It’s hard to describe how each has gotten there because it really does vary. Some people have the right connections. For others, they may start with some research in academia (USA university). These are just a few examples of how people eventually reach these goals.

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