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  • Lake Erie College of Osteopathic Medicine at Erie
  • Osteopathic Medical School
  • Erie
Individual Feedback 5 9 Responses
General Info

What graduating class are you in?

Response # Responders
2007 1
2008 0
2009 0
2010 1
2011 1
2012 2
2013 1
2014 0
2015 0
2016 1
2017 0
2018 2
2019 0
2020 0
2021 0
2022 0
2023 0
2024 0

Are you pursuing any joint degrees (MD/PhD, MD/MPH, etc.)?

Response # Responders
No 9
BA/DO 0
BS/DO 0
DO/JD 0
DO/MA 0
DO/MBA 0
DO/MPH 0
DO/MS 0
DO/PhD 0
MD/JD 0
MD/MBA 0
MD/MPH 0
MD/MS 0
MD/PhD 0

Are you considered in-state or out-of-state for tuition purposes?

Response # Responders
in-state 1
out-of-state 7
international 0
Not applicable 1

What is your race/ethnic background?

Response # Responders
Caucasian 7
African American 0
Hispanic 0
Asian or Pacific Islander 0
Native American/ Native Alaskan 0
Other/Multiracial 2

Overall, how would you rate this medical program?

Response Avg # Responders
5.11 9

0 = terrible, 10 = world class

What is the reputation of the school in the medical community?

Response Avg # Responders
5.78 9

0 = really bad, 10 = top tier

What is the reputation of the research that goes on at this school?

Response Avg # Responders
3.11 9

0 = really bad, 10 = top tier

What was your MCAT score?

Response Average # Responders
509 9

What was your undergrad GPA?

Response Average # Responders
3.36 9

What was your undergrad science GPA?

Response Average # Responders
3.23 9

What was the zip code of your residence in high school?

08062

70118

98329

99744

43017

02331

01035

60601

83318

What do you like most about this school?

"The fellow students" | Report Response

"That they accepted me." | Report Response

"The PBL program" | Report Response

"They gave me the opportunity to be a physician despite a slow start in college." | Report Response

"I enjoy the multiple pathways that allowed a personalized education." | Report Response

"PBL Low tuition" | Report Response

"Most of the faculty are very knowledgeable about what they teach and have a passion to teach students." | Report Response

"Very cheap tuition (~$30k) for a private school." | Report Response

"Great education, great teachers and rotation sites" | Report Response

What do you like least about this school?

"The administration is absolutely terrible and completely inept. If you can avoid it, do not go to the Seton Hill campus. They constantly put their students at a huge disadvantage are not apologetic about it." | Report Response

"The way it is run. The entire administration, particularly the dean is terrible and continue to make decision after decision to the determent of its students." | Report Response

"The OMM program" | Report Response

"I did not dwell on any negativity from other students since I was most grateful for being accepted when I knew it was a huge longshot." | Report Response

"I felt LECOM in some ways enforced to many rules that were unrelated to our education to show us that "it was their way or the highway"." | Report Response

"Awful policies No support Chaos" | Report Response

"The interior of the school building is very drab and gray. Sometimes they seem too strict with all of the rules against having food or drink in class, dress code, etc." | Report Response

"Mandatory attendance begins to wear you down during the spring semester of M2. You want to focus more on boards and thus sitting in lectures where slides are read to you are a waste of time." | Report Response

"Administration would hound us about little things" | Report Response

Please provide any other general comments on your school

"This school had been under review for 2 years for low board and shelf scores. They do not give you dedicated board time even though this is pretty standard. If you are not going to pass based on practice exams, then they place you in mandatory remediation for boards which is 50hrs of lecture a week for 1 month (they use one of your vacation rotations to do this)." | Report Response

"This school is very suffocating. They treat adults like children. I seriously felt that I had more personal liberties in high school." | Report Response

"This is a great school despite all the negative rumors. The PBL program did a great job preparing me for Step 1 and clinical rotations." | Report Response

"The school is very strictly run, attendance required, dress code, etc. However, most jobs have specific rules as well if you want to work for any company. The school is readying you for a real world, being accountable profession long before you graduate." | Report Response

"The school does provide a solid curriculum with adequate teaching (some good and some bad). If you want to stand out however, you must learn on your own to do well on rotations and the boards. I did not feel lecom provided more than a strong basic sciences background." | Report Response

"There are no cadavers for anatomy; just books" | Report Response

"Despite our dress code and not being able to even have water in the classroom, I feel that these have sometimes helped me to learn and have definitely taught me about professionalism. Our classes are big but it doesn't seem that way because we work in small lab groups and get to know or at least recognize most of our classmates over the first 2 years of school." | Report Response

"Good school, but glad to be done" | Report Response

Curriculum

How is the curriculum structured?

Response # Responders
Systems-based 7
Traditional 0

How many courses are taken at a given time?

Response # Responders
1 2
2 0
3 1
4 1
5 1
6 2
7 0
8 0
9 0
10 0

How long are you typically in class per day?

Response # Responders
<1 hour 0
1-2 hours 0
2-3 hours 1
3-4 hours 2
4-5 hours 0
5-6 hours 1
6> hours 4

Are courses recorded for medical students?

Response # Responders
Video recording 1
Free note taking service 0
Fee-based note taking service 4
Powerpoint slides provided only 7
None 0

How many days per week is anatomy lab?

Response # Responders
1 1
2 1
3 3
4 0
5 0
6 1
7 0

How many students per cadaver?

Response # Responders
Prosections only 0
1-2 0
3-4 6
5-6 0
7-8 0
>8 0

How long (in months) do you have anatomy?

Response # Responders
3 months 5
6 months 2
9 months 0
12 months 0
24 months 0

Is the curriculum lecture-centric or small-group centric?

Response Avg # Responders
4.50 8

0 = 100% lecture, 10 = 100% small group

Are standardized patients used?

Response # Responders
yes 6
no 2

How much patient interaction is there in the pre-clinical years?

Response Avg # Responders
4.00 8

0 = none, 10 = extensive

Are syllabi provided for the student?

Response # Responders
yes 6
no 2

How frequently do pre-clinical medical school activities have mandatory attendance?

"They are all required." | Report Response

"Daily." | Report Response

"Most classes are mandatory" | Report Response

"Attendance is mandatory for everything and punishable if not met." | Report Response

"Attendance is always mandatory." | Report Response

"once or twice a week, i.e. OMM class and lab" | Report Response

"All the classes have mandatory attendance." | Report Response

"All" | Report Response

What books are necessary?

"no, but it is required that we purchase ALL of them through and electronic data base." | Report Response

"it varies by the course." | Report Response

"Many are "required" but for the Lecture discussion pathway, you can get away with less books. I bought Netter's Anatomy Atlas, Anatomy text, Guyton and Hall Physio, two cardio books, a neuro book and atlas, a ophthalmological text, and others I just borrowed older versions from the library. I bought books that I thought I would reference in the future." | Report Response

"Dependent on pathway. LDP, depending on the student, requires the use of no books or some. Many students choose to use USMLE review books along with classes. PBL/ISP students, due to them not being in class, need to use the books." | Report Response

"none" | Report Response

Location & Housing

How do you feel about the location of the school?

Response Avg # Responders
4.29 7

0 = Uncomfortable, 10 = Desirable

Do you feel safe on campus?

Response Avg # Responders
9.00 7

0 = Not safe, 10 = Very safe

How available and convenient is public transportation?

Response Avg # Responders
2.71 7

0 = Non-existent, 10 = Extensive & convenient

Is a car necessary at any point during your education here?

Response # Responders
Pre-clinical years 0
Clinical years 0
All years 7
No 0

If a car is required for education, how available and convenient is the parking provided to students?

Response Avg # Responders
9.43 7

0 = Almost impossible, 10 = Available & convenient

Is on-campus housing available?

Response # Responders
yes 0
no 7

What is the quality of available on-campus housing?

Response Avg # Responders
4.29 7

0 = terrible, 10 = great

What percentage of your medical school classmates would you estimate live on campus, if on-campus housing is available?

Response Avg # Responders
2.86 7

0 = 0%, 10 = 100%

Is couples housing available?

Response # Responders
yes 0
no 6

Is nearby off-campus housing available?

Response # Responders
yes 6
no 1

How expensive is nearby off-campus housing?

Response Avg # Responders
7.29 7

0 = exorbitant, 10 = reasonable

Please describe the on-campus housing if available (i.e., cost, type - studios, 1-br, 2-br, etc.)?

"none. you find your own place." | Report Response

"None" | Report Response

Cost/Financial Aid

Are fees/tuition expensive?

Response Avg # Responders
8.75 8

0 = exorbitant, 10 = reasonable

How is the cost of living (rent, food, bills, etc.)?

Response Avg # Responders
8.50 8

0 = exorbitant, 10 = reasonable

Are many institutional scholarships/grants available?

Response Avg # Responders
4.00 8

0 = none, 10 = many

Is institutional aid need-based or merit-based?

Response # Responders
Need-based 0
Merit-based 1
Both 7

Faculty/Grades

Are faculty members very open to students during office hours?

Response Avg # Responders
6.38 8

0 = Not at all, 10 = Very open

Are faculty members very available to students via email/message board?

Response Avg # Responders
5.63 8

0 = Not at all, 10 = Very available

Are there many opportunities to shadow/work with clinical faculty?

Response Avg # Responders
3.75 8

0 = none, 10 = lots

Are the faculty willing to mentor students in regards to career guidance?

Response Avg # Responders
4.25 8

0 = no, 10 = very

Is the class ranked?

Response # Responders
yes 7
no 0

How is the instructional faculty during pre-clinical years?

"It is 50/50. The primary professors are absolutely terrible, they are frequently wrong during lectures and will not change their stance regardless of what data is given to them. The secondary professors are actually pretty effective teachers and willing to put in the time to teach you." | Report Response

"they are adequate." | Report Response

"Mixed - some okay, some pretty good, some awful. There is no mechanism for changing or reviewing bad faculty; criticism of faculty is considered disloyalty." | Report Response

"Excellent! Most are passionate about what they teach." | Report Response

"Anatomy/Histology/Embryo = Top Notch Biochemistry = Top Notch Physiology = OK Pharmacology = Terrible Pathology = Top Notch In regards to the best run systems: Cardio > MSK > GI > Basic Neuro > Heme/Onc > Endo > Repro > Resp > Clinical Neuro Clinical Neuro is just crazy tough." | Report Response

"Great" | Report Response

Clinical Rotations

Are the desired rotation sites easy to obtain?

Response Avg # Responders
5.29 7

0 = difficult, 10 = easy

Is desired rotation order easy to obtain?

Response Avg # Responders
5.57 7

0 = difficult, 10 = easy

Are the elective rotations easy to obtain?

Response Avg # Responders
6.00 7

0 = difficult, 10 = easy

Is there substantial hands-on experience for medical students?

Response Avg # Responders
5.14 7

0 = none, 10 = substantial

Are the rotation sites conveniently accessible for medical students?

Response Avg # Responders
4.71 7

0 = difficult, 10 = accessible

How far are the clinical sites from the main campus?

Response Avg # Responders
3.14 7

0 = far away, 10 = close

How are clinical rotations scheduled? What are the required rotations?

"you schedule them on your own for the most part" | Report Response

"Very chaotic. Very difficult to do all rotations in the same hospital or even the same area." | Report Response

"Choose what month you want for vacation and which hospital group or area you want to spend the most time in. In groups of 8-10 or so there are required slots to fill for required rotations. Students must sort out who goes where for what. Required are OB/GYN, Peds, FM, Surgery x2, Internal Med x2, Psychiatry, Emergency Med x2, Ambulatory Med x2, Underserved/rural medicine, 2 primary care selectives, 1 surgical selective and 1 medical selective and 4-6 electives." | Report Response

"Rotations are scheduled by the students. You choose either "schedule" or "location" and choose your top 3 in each. Most students receive their top choice for both. M3 = standard required rotations, +2 electives, +1 vacation. Family practice can be done anywhere in the US as well as 1 "core selective." M4 = +3 electives, +1 vacation, +1 Step 2 study month, and the remainder are required rotations rural medicine, ER, AMB, surgical/medical selectives, ect." | Report Response

"Via an online portal - required are FP, OB, Peds, ER, Surg, R/U, Ambulatory, Psych" | Report Response

What responsibility do med students have on the wards?

"learn all that you can and make sure you pass the shelf exams" | Report Response

"Varies with attending. Students may be first assist on surgery, lots of h&p's on all rotations, learn procedures like mole removal, suturing, omm on real patients, and many more." | Report Response

"N/A" | Report Response

"Depends on the hospital and the rotation - anything from just H&Ps to intubations and suturing" | Report Response

What is the status/condition of the affiliated hospital(s)?

"we are affiliated with hospitals mostly in pa and fl." | Report Response

"Ranges from smaller community hospitals (lots of neat stuff, seemingly more autonomy as a student) to larger hospitals with various subspecialties." | Report Response

"Affiliated hospitals are all across the country; thus many students have to move to major cities (Cleveland, Buffalo, Philly, Pitt). Due to the school not paying for clinical rotations (thus cheap tuition), rotations are all over the eastern and midwestern states." | Report Response

"Some are great, others are poor" | Report Response

Social Environment

Do students do a lot of activities outside of school together?

Response Avg # Responders
5.71 7

0 = none, 10 = lots

How would you rank student involvement in extracurricular clubs?

Response Avg # Responders
5.14 7

0 = none, 10 = lots

What is the range of extracurricular clubs available?

Response Avg # Responders
5.43 7

0 = almost none, 10 = wide range

Is the student body cooperative or competitive?

Response Avg # Responders
7.57 7

0 = competitive, 10 = cooperative

Is the environment supportive for underrepresented minorities?

Response Avg # Responders
4.00 7

0 = no, 10 = very

Is the environment supportive for lesbian/gay/bisexual/transsexual students?

Response Avg # Responders
3.43 7

0 = no, 10 = very

Is the environment supportive for married students?

Response Avg # Responders
7.43 7

0 = no, 10 = very

Is the environment supportive for students with disabilities?

Response Avg # Responders
5.14 7

0 = no, 10 = very

Is the environment supportive for older/non-traditional students?

Response Avg # Responders
7.86 7

0 = no, 10 = very
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