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  • Cleveland Clinic Lerner College of Medicine of Case Western University
  • Allopathic Medical School
  • Cleveland
Individual Feedback 2 2 Responses
General Info

What graduating class are you in?

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2007 0
2008 0
2009 0
2010 0
2011 1
2012 0
2013 0
2014 0
2015 0
2016 1
2017 0
2018 0
2019 0
2020 0
2021 0
2022 0
2023 0
2024 0

Are you pursuing any joint degrees (MD/PhD, MD/MPH, etc.)?

Response # Responders
No 0
BA/DO 0
BS/DO 0
DO/JD 0
DO/MA 0
DO/MBA 0
DO/MPH 0
DO/MS 0
DO/PhD 0
MD/JD 0
MD/MBA 0
MD/MPH 0
MD/MS 2
MD/PhD 0

Are you considered in-state or out-of-state for tuition purposes?

Response # Responders
in-state 0
out-of-state 0
international 0
Not applicable 2

What is your race/ethnic background?

Response # Responders
Caucasian 1
African American 0
Hispanic 1
Asian or Pacific Islander 0
Native American/ Native Alaskan 0
Other/Multiracial 0

Overall, how would you rate this medical program?

Response Avg # Responders
10.00 2

0 = terrible, 10 = world class

What is the reputation of the school in the medical community?

Response Avg # Responders
10.00 2

0 = really bad, 10 = top tier

What is the reputation of the research that goes on at this school?

Response Avg # Responders
10.00 2

0 = really bad, 10 = top tier

What was your MCAT score?

Response Average # Responders
524 2

What was your undergrad GPA?

Response Average # Responders
3.30 2

What was your undergrad science GPA?

Response Average # Responders
3.50 2

What was the zip code of your residence in high school?

48236

33019

What do you like most about this school?

"Physician-scientist training (MD << Cleveland Clinic < MD/PhD) for those interested in more that straight MD training, and less than MD/PhD. VERY small class size: It's like family. Except your family has some of the brightest students from around the world and every walk of life - which can be very humbling. World-class hospital faculty, access to some really unique patient populations (not so much zebras - more like unicorns). No grades, class-rankings, lectures, exams, or AOA. We have the rights and privileges of all Case Western Reserve students, and additional perks similar to residents at Cleveland Clinic. And chill." | Report Response

"It is like a family, or like Cheers, where everyone knows your name. The personal attention and available resources can't be beat. Neither can free tuition!" | Report Response

What do you like least about this school?

"The very small group-learning sessions (often 8 students, but sometimes as low as 4 or 6) means that each student must show up, be prepared, and participate / share the learning workload. Students who cannot or chose not to participate and those not truly interested in a research career can be disruptive to the learning environment. Small class size and high-achieving classmates tend to invite close scrutiny of your performance and can cause anxiety - although this is partially mitigated by the (true) lack of exams, grades, rankings, AOA." | Report Response

"Sometimes families can be a little dysfunctional. :-P" | Report Response

Please provide any other general comments on your school

"Not for everyone - research is integrated into every aspect of our training, and there is an additional mandatory year for all students." | Report Response

Curriculum

How is the curriculum structured?

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Systems-based 2
Traditional 0

How many courses are taken at a given time?

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1 2
2 0
3 0
4 0
5 0
6 0
7 0
8 0
9 0
10 0

How long are you typically in class per day?

Response # Responders
<1 hour 0
1-2 hours 0
2-3 hours 0
3-4 hours 2
4-5 hours 0
5-6 hours 0
6> hours 0

Are courses recorded for medical students?

Response # Responders
Video recording 0
Free note taking service 0
Fee-based note taking service 0
Powerpoint slides provided only 0
None 2

How many days per week is anatomy lab?

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1 2
2 0
3 0
4 0
5 0
6 0
7 0

How many students per cadaver?

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Prosections only 2
1-2 0
3-4 0
5-6 0
7-8 0
>8 0

How long (in months) do you have anatomy?

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3 months 0
6 months 0
9 months 0
12 months 0
24 months 2

Is the curriculum lecture-centric or small-group centric?

Response Avg # Responders
7.50 2

0 = 100% lecture, 10 = 100% small group

Are standardized patients used?

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yes 2
no 0

How much patient interaction is there in the pre-clinical years?

Response Avg # Responders
10.00 2

0 = none, 10 = extensive

Are syllabi provided for the student?

Response # Responders
yes 0
no 2

How frequently do pre-clinical medical school activities have mandatory attendance?

"Always...Always." | Report Response

"All classes have mandatory attendance. You spend about 20 hours per week in class first year (including clinic), and 24 hours per week second year." | Report Response

What books are necessary?

"You will receive a list of books in your orientation materials." | Report Response

What books are unnecessary?

"Most of the recommended (supplementary) books you can do without." | Report Response

Is the curriculum designed to promote a specialty? If so, which specialty?

"Promotes physician-scientists in all areas of medicine (academic, public health, the business of medicine, bioethics, nutrition, engineering; and basic science, translational, and clinical research)" | Report Response

"No, but it is designed to produce academic physicians (clinician investigators). So if you're looking to go into private practice somewhere, this is probably not the best program for you." | Report Response

Location & Housing

How do you feel about the location of the school?

Response Avg # Responders
4.50 2

0 = Uncomfortable, 10 = Desirable

Do you feel safe on campus?

Response Avg # Responders
9.50 2

0 = Not safe, 10 = Very safe

How available and convenient is public transportation?

Response Avg # Responders
5.00 2

0 = Non-existent, 10 = Extensive & convenient

Is a car necessary at any point during your education here?

Response # Responders
Pre-clinical years 0
Clinical years 1
All years 1
No 0

If a car is required for education, how available and convenient is the parking provided to students?

Response Avg # Responders
6.50 2

0 = Almost impossible, 10 = Available & convenient

Is on-campus housing available?

Response # Responders
yes 0
no 2

What is the quality of available on-campus housing?

Response Avg # Responders
5.00 2

0 = terrible, 10 = great

What percentage of your medical school classmates would you estimate live on campus, if on-campus housing is available?

Response Avg # Responders
5.00 2

0 = 0%, 10 = 100%

Is couples housing available?

Response # Responders
yes 0
no 2

Is nearby off-campus housing available?

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yes 2
no 0

How expensive is nearby off-campus housing?

Response Avg # Responders
8.50 2

0 = exorbitant, 10 = reasonable

Please describe the on-campus housing if available (i.e., cost, type - studios, 1-br, 2-br, etc.)?

"There is housing at Case for grad students, but none on the Clinic campus." | Report Response

Cost/Financial Aid

Are fees/tuition expensive?

Response Avg # Responders
10.00 2

0 = exorbitant, 10 = reasonable

How is the cost of living (rent, food, bills, etc.)?

Response Avg # Responders
7.50 2

0 = exorbitant, 10 = reasonable

Are many institutional scholarships/grants available?

Response Avg # Responders
10.00 2

0 = none, 10 = many

Is institutional aid need-based or merit-based?

Response # Responders
Need-based 0
Merit-based 1
Both 1

Faculty/Grades

Are faculty members very open to students during office hours?

Response Avg # Responders
10.00 2

0 = Not at all, 10 = Very open

Are faculty members very available to students via email/message board?

Response Avg # Responders
10.00 2

0 = Not at all, 10 = Very available

Are there many opportunities to shadow/work with clinical faculty?

Response Avg # Responders
10.00 2

0 = none, 10 = lots

Are the faculty willing to mentor students in regards to career guidance?

Response Avg # Responders
9.50 2

0 = no, 10 = very

Is the class ranked?

Response # Responders
yes 0
no 2

How is the instructional faculty during pre-clinical years?

"There are no lectures, but mandatory small-group and seminar based discussions with (very) active student interaction." | Report Response

"They range from good to excellent. We evaluate their teaching regularly, and those that are less interactive or otherwise not as good tend to be culled out." | Report Response

How is the instructional faculty during clinical years?

"Traditional clinical rotations are identical to the "regular" Case Western Reserve "University Track" program - students from CCLCM can and do rotate at the exact same locations (several hospital systems within NE Ohio)." | Report Response

"Same as before: good to excellent. Again, we evaluate them regularly. I only had one attending that I would say was awful." | Report Response

What is the grading scale used during pre-clinical years?

"None. All promotions (from first to second year, for example) are done after reviewing portfolio performance of each student confidentially by an anonymous committee." | Report Response

"P/F" | Report Response

What is the grading scale used during clinical years?

"AE - for core rotations "AE" is given on the transcript for all rotations passed with an End-of-Rotation the descriptive evaluation score of "Meets OR exceeds expectations" as a combined (and purposefully ambiguous) maximum possible score. Acting Internships, however, are now use a more traditional "Meets Expectations" and "Exceeds Expectations"" | Report Response

"P/F" | Report Response

Clinical Rotations

Are the desired rotation sites easy to obtain?

Response Avg # Responders
7.50 2

0 = difficult, 10 = easy

Is desired rotation order easy to obtain?

Response Avg # Responders
4.00 2

0 = difficult, 10 = easy

Are the elective rotations easy to obtain?

Response Avg # Responders
8.50 2

0 = difficult, 10 = easy

Is there substantial hands-on experience for medical students?

Response Avg # Responders
7.50 2

0 = none, 10 = substantial

Are the rotation sites conveniently accessible for medical students?

Response Avg # Responders
9.00 2

0 = difficult, 10 = accessible

How far are the clinical sites from the main campus?

Response Avg # Responders
9.00 2

0 = far away, 10 = close

How are clinical rotations scheduled? What are the required rotations?

"CCLCM students are scheduled along with all other Case students for basic core rotations. Therefore there are lots of students and many sites. Done mainly centrally through Case. Students choose preferences, but not all requests can be honored, although there is a mechanism for students to swap with eachother." | Report Response

"Our rotations are exactly the same as the regular Case program. Go to the Case website for the latest schedules. But in a nutshell, we have three core blocks. Core I is medicine and surgery. Core II is peds, family med, and OB/gyn. Core III is psych and neuro. We are also required to do a month each of geriatrics and EM. Fourth year we do two acting internships, one of which must be medicine, surgery, or peds." | Report Response

What responsibility do med students have on the wards?

"YMMV - I did several median sternotomies (with supervision, of course) and sewed on the heart in one rotation, and then was essentially observing on the next. I feel it is probably as good, if not better than most student experiences, and highly dependent on your personal motivation as much as the rotation/circumstances.." | Report Response

"It varies by rotation and rotation site. My experience was that on peds you don't get to do as much, unfortunately. On medicine, I felt like we had to do too much, including taking 30 hour Q4 call with the team." | Report Response

What is the status/condition of the affiliated hospital(s)?

"In a word - full-spectrum and world-class. CCF is like a spaceship and a great surgical center with Tertiary/Quaternary Care center which has a massive main campus with something like 18 Family Health Centers and outpatient satellite facilities (including a rural medicine option). It's minimalist and modern ("very white" is how visitors often describe it) vs. a place like Mayo which has a warmer feel, but more of an "old money" decor. Metro is a legit county hospital (think ER or Scrubs) , with a large trauma center and burn unit and a great national rep and a excellent teaching record. University Hospitals is a VERY well established academic center also nationally ranked in the heart of a vibrant college campus and cultural center. And let's not forget the very large and well-regarded Stokes VA center in town as well." | Report Response

"There are four main hospitals where students rotate: University Hospitals (academic teaching hospital), Cleveland Clinic (gigantic private group practice), Metro (county hospital), and the VA. A new affiliation with a community hospital is also being started." | Report Response

What is the typical patient population medical students work with?

"This is a silly question. Let me see: Sports super-stars, indigent homeless, white middle class, hispanics/latinos, rural, Amish neonates and wealthy retirees, working poor. International patients life-flighted there, VIP foreign dignitaries and heads of states. Servicemen. Stay-at-home moms. Horses, the occasional zebras. The rare unicorn. A Billionaire in bed 4 and a one-in-a-billion in bedspace 5. But most importantly, you'll see bread-and-butter." | Report Response

"Depends on rotation site. At UH, you get your regular variety of tertiary care center patients plus local patients. At the Clinic, you get the zebras that even tertiary care hospitals have a hard time dealing with, plus all kinds of bigwigs from abroad and around the country. At Metro, you get an inner city population. At the VA, you obviously see veterans, so mostly men." | Report Response

Social Environment

Do students do a lot of activities outside of school together?

Response Avg # Responders
7.50 2

0 = none, 10 = lots

How would you rank student involvement in extracurricular clubs?

Response Avg # Responders
8.50 2

0 = none, 10 = lots

What is the range of extracurricular clubs available?

Response Avg # Responders
8.50 2

0 = almost none, 10 = wide range

Is the student body cooperative or competitive?

Response Avg # Responders
10.00 2

0 = competitive, 10 = cooperative

Is the environment supportive for underrepresented minorities?

Response Avg # Responders
10.00 2

0 = no, 10 = very

Is the environment supportive for lesbian/gay/bisexual/transsexual students?

Response Avg # Responders
10.00 2

0 = no, 10 = very

Is the environment supportive for married students?

Response Avg # Responders
10.00 2

0 = no, 10 = very

Is the environment supportive for students with disabilities?

Response Avg # Responders
9.00 2

0 = no, 10 = very

Is the environment supportive for older/non-traditional students?

Response Avg # Responders
10.00 2

0 = no, 10 = very

What do the students typically like to do in the area?

"You name it - things are very cheap in CLE. Most students find lots to do with their spare time. Run/hike/b-ball are all popular." | Report Response

"Your typical med student activities. Go out, have parties, have dinner, volunteer in the community, hang out." | Report Response

Post Graduation

How do graduates from this school fare in residency and clinical practice?

"This school has yet to limit anyone that I know of from pursuing their dream schools - most get their 1-3 choices for matching." | Report Response

"So far two classes have graduated, and both have matched very well. No one is in practice yet." | Report Response

What do you believe residency directors think about graduates from this program?

"In the past the "no grade/rankings/exam/AOA" used to trip up RDs. However, given that we now have graduated many classes, our reputation has greatly improved. This is nearly a non-existent problem currently, and not anticipated to be a barrier to anyone graduating going forward." | Report Response

"They are apparently doing well according to the CCLCM student affairs office, which asked the PDs at the places where our grads matched." | Report Response

Is this school known for producing physicians strong in a certain area? If so, which area?

"Research. We have a rep at NIH and Sarnoff etc for selecting and grooming excellent candidates for competitive fellowships and research opportunities." | Report Response

"Again, no one has finished residency yet, but the expectation is that we will be academic physicians." | Report Response

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