17-Year-Old Girl Given Organs With Wrong Blood Type

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DURHAM, N.C. (AP) -- A 17-year-old girl lay near death Tuesday after mistakenly receiving a heart and lung transplant from a donor with the wrong blood type, and hospital officials held out little hope of finding a new set of organs in time.

Jesica Santillan's condition steadily deteriorated after the botched operation Feb. 7. She suffered a heart attack Feb. 10 and a seizure on Sunday, and was in critical condition with a machine keeping her heart and lungs going.

``Right now my daughter is between life and death. She could die at any moment,'' her mother, Magdalena Santillan, said in Spanish through an interpreter. ``My daughter needs a transplant of a heart and lungs to survive. It's the only hope that we have because the doctors made an error.''

A family friend said the girl has only a few days left.

The girl has type O-positive blood but was given organs from a donor with type-A blood during the operation at Duke University Hospital.

Hospital spokesman Richard Puff said he could not specify how the mistake was made. But he said that the hospital staff believed the organs were compatible and that compatibility had been confirmed.

Jesica's body was rejecting the new organs because of the different blood types. Antibodies in her blood attacked the organs as foreign objects.

Puff said the girl is a candidate for another transplant and ``we remain hopeful that will happen.'' But he said the hospital can do little to improve her odds.

``We're going through the usual system of transplant agencies. That's all we can do,'' he said.

Jesica remained on the national waiting list kept by the United Network for Organ Sharing. Spokeswoman Anne Paschke said the national organ procurement group cannot specifically search for a heart and lungs for Jesica.

``Unfortunately, there are very few organs available,'' Paschke said. The organs not only have to be the right blood type, they have to be the right size to fit into the girl's chest cavity.

Mack Mahoney, the family friend, said Jesica is small for her age -- 5-foot-2 and 85 pounds -- and any donated organs would probably come from a child.

``We have a good chance of saving this child's life if we find a donor in the next couple of days,'' he said.

In the meantime, he said, the life-support apparatus was hurting Jesica, raising the danger of bleeding, stroke and kidney damage.

Jesica, who is from a small town near Guadalajara, Mexico, needed the transplant because a heart deformity kept her lungs from getting oxygen into her blood. Mahoney said she would have died within six months without a transplant.

The donated organs were flown in from Boston. They were sent with paperwork correctly listing the donor's type-A blood, said Sean Fitzpatrick of the New England Organ Bank, which sent the organs.

The hospital's chief executive, Dr. William Fulkerson, said it was still investigating how the mistake happened and whether any staff members should be disciplined. He said the hospital will add new confirmation requirements to ensure organ compatibility.

``This was a tragic event and our expectation is that, with these new procedures, this will not happen again,'' said Puff, the hospital spokesman. ``We've done thousands of organ transplants and it's never happened before.''

Organ network spokesman Bob Spieldenner said he knows of two similar cases in the past decade, both at Oregon Health Sciences University, now called Oregon Health and Science University.

In 1991, the hospital put a heart with the wrong blood type into a patient, but discovered the error. It gave him another heart and he survived. Three years later, surgeons opened the chest of a 15-year-old boy for a heart transplant, but discovered the organ was the wrong blood type and closed him up. The boy died 10 days later.

Heart and lung transplants are rare for teenagers: In the first 11 months of last year, there were four nationwide for children between the ages of 11 and 17, UNOS' records show. The previous year, there were four.

The Santillans moved to North Carolina nearly three years ago from Tamazula.

Mahoney, a businessman in Louiseburg, got involved after he read news reports of the girl's ailment and her family's lack of money. He and his wife joined community efforts to raise money to pay for her medical care, and Jesica's parents gave Mahoney power of attorney for their daughter.

``I've been trying to save this girl's life,'' Mahoney said. ``It's been a fight all the way.''

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On the Net:

Site for Jesica: http://www.4jhc.org

United Network for Organ Sharing: http://www.unos.org

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Oh my God. That is terrible !!

Originally posted by whatsupdoc
DURHAM, N.C. (AP) -- A 17-year-old girl lay near death Tuesday after mistakenly receiving a heart and lung transplant from a donor with the wrong blood type, and hospital officials held out little hope of finding a new set of organs in time.

Jesica Santillan's condition steadily deteriorated after the botched operation Feb. 7. She suffered a heart attack Feb. 10 and a seizure on Sunday, and was in critical condition with a machine keeping her heart and lungs going.

``Right now my daughter is between life and death. She could die at any moment,'' her mother, Magdalena Santillan, said in Spanish through an interpreter. ``My daughter needs a transplant of a heart and lungs to survive. It's the only hope that we have because the doctors made an error.''

A family friend said the girl has only a few days left.

The girl has type O-positive blood but was given organs from a donor with type-A blood during the operation at Duke University Hospital.

Hospital spokesman Richard Puff said he could not specify how the mistake was made. But he said that the hospital staff believed the organs were compatible and that compatibility had been confirmed.

Jesica's body was rejecting the new organs because of the different blood types. Antibodies in her blood attacked the organs as foreign objects.

Puff said the girl is a candidate for another transplant and ``we remain hopeful that will happen.'' But he said the hospital can do little to improve her odds.

``We're going through the usual system of transplant agencies. That's all we can do,'' he said.

Jesica remained on the national waiting list kept by the United Network for Organ Sharing. Spokeswoman Anne Paschke said the national organ procurement group cannot specifically search for a heart and lungs for Jesica.

``Unfortunately, there are very few organs available,'' Paschke said. The organs not only have to be the right blood type, they have to be the right size to fit into the girl's chest cavity.

Mack Mahoney, the family friend, said Jesica is small for her age -- 5-foot-2 and 85 pounds -- and any donated organs would probably come from a child.

``We have a good chance of saving this child's life if we find a donor in the next couple of days,'' he said.

In the meantime, he said, the life-support apparatus was hurting Jesica, raising the danger of bleeding, stroke and kidney damage.

Jesica, who is from a small town near Guadalajara, Mexico, needed the transplant because a heart deformity kept her lungs from getting oxygen into her blood. Mahoney said she would have died within six months without a transplant.

The donated organs were flown in from Boston. They were sent with paperwork correctly listing the donor's type-A blood, said Sean Fitzpatrick of the New England Organ Bank, which sent the organs.

The hospital's chief executive, Dr. William Fulkerson, said it was still investigating how the mistake happened and whether any staff members should be disciplined. He said the hospital will add new confirmation requirements to ensure organ compatibility.

``This was a tragic event and our expectation is that, with these new procedures, this will not happen again,'' said Puff, the hospital spokesman. ``We've done thousands of organ transplants and it's never happened before.''

Organ network spokesman Bob Spieldenner said he knows of two similar cases in the past decade, both at Oregon Health Sciences University, now called Oregon Health and Science University.

In 1991, the hospital put a heart with the wrong blood type into a patient, but discovered the error. It gave him another heart and he survived. Three years later, surgeons opened the chest of a 15-year-old boy for a heart transplant, but discovered the organ was the wrong blood type and closed him up. The boy died 10 days later.

Heart and lung transplants are rare for teenagers: In the first 11 months of last year, there were four nationwide for children between the ages of 11 and 17, UNOS' records show. The previous year, there were four.

The Santillans moved to North Carolina nearly three years ago from Tamazula.

Mahoney, a businessman in Louiseburg, got involved after he read news reports of the girl's ailment and her family's lack of money. He and his wife joined community efforts to raise money to pay for her medical care, and Jesica's parents gave Mahoney power of attorney for their daughter.

``I've been trying to save this girl's life,'' Mahoney said. ``It's been a fight all the way.''

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On the Net:

Site for Jesica: http://www.4jhc.org

United Network for Organ Sharing: http://www.unos.org
 
heart AND lung transplant!!?
I'm thinking that she probably didn't have a good chance for long term survival even if she had received the right transplants.
 
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OMG geromine, that is entirely missing the point.

In addition, my psychology professor is the world's longest living heart-lung transplant recipient: 11 years and counting. Guy can run three times as much as me. And he's 30 years older.

I heard this morning, and I can't stop thinking about it all day.
 
Originally posted by geromine
heart AND lung transplant!!?
I'm thinking that she probably didn't have a good chance for long term survival even if she had received the right transplants.
I'm not an expert, but I don't think that's necessarily true.

I think they've made great strides with MULTIPLE organ transplants in the past ten years. I know that the more famous transplant centers (Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, and in TX ...in what city is TX's transplant center??) have been doing them for a long time.

Mistakes are made, but this sounds like gross negligence.
 
It's Houston.

And, you're right, it's nothing short of gross negligence. I just hope that the person who made the mistake doesn't know it was them. Enough lives have been destroyed as it is.
 
i feel really sorry for the poor girl and her family. and i am really upset that those health professionals who gave the girl hope are the ones who are now giving her a death sentence. alas, nothing i can do. but i do know that someone has to pay the price!
someone will get sued!!!
 
It's hard to believe that after all of the trouble of waiting, getting the girl ready for, and then obtaining a donor heart AND lungs that somebody can f*ck up this badly. The mistake is nothing short of incompetant and morbid. I know that when the time comes Duke won't be on my general surgery match list nor one of my CT fellowship choices for that matter.
 
let this be a lesson of humility for all you pre-md's and your criticism of pre-do's.

we're all human, we're all fighting the same wa... BATTLE...
 
Originally posted by Gleevec
Apparently the entire wing is going to be shut down while they reevaluate what happened.

dumbest premed, are you also going to avoid hopkins and penn because of equally dumb and recent mishaps (some due to conflict of interest related to business, inpast 3 years) there as well?

I think instead of thinking of your own selfish career plans and how you hate someones incompetence for making a mistake, maybe you should consider sending your best wishes to the girl instead?

Well if you wont I will.. here's to the girl getting better. I really hope they can find her another set of organs in the next couple of days. I think it is fair to say that most SDNers care more about the girl than their own career plans, and that she is in our hearts and prayers.


I'm not thinking of my own selfish career plans, but of how this should have never happened and how it should be prevented from recurring in the future. She is in my prayers as well and I wish her a matching transplant and a recovery.
 
This girl just cannot get a break.
They already tried the transplant once before, but the donor organs were not in good enough condition.
So, what is there left to say?
If I were religious, I'd say to pray.

Emotionally, I want someone to pay. But intellectually, I know it was a mistake. It's much more important to learn from tragedies like these. But I'm still mad that s**t like this happens.

And the outrage is what is driving me into medicine.



I join Gleevec in wishing her the best.
 
Originally posted by H0mersimps0n
let this be a lesson of humility for all you pre-md's and your criticism of pre-do's.


WTF?!?!?! :eek: :eek:

How in the world did you manage to make this into an MD vs. DO issue?!? Jesus Christ, that is really sick.
Congratulations on using this to advance your cause. :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by surge
And the outrage is what is driving me into medicine.

Nix the Mercedes. Nix the prestige. It's time we get some doctors in here that are in it for more than the money. I imagine we will be seeing a huge change in medicine before too much longer.

I'm with you Surge.
 
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I also agree. If someone is doing such a crucial job they should have all aspects covered. If they don't want to be responsible for what they do there's always the opportunity to bag groceries for a living. Incompetence of this magnitude is nothing short of scary. While my thoughts are with the girl, I would also like to see someone pay for this professionally.
 
Originally posted by surge
WTF?!?!?! :eek: :eek:

How in the world did you manage to make this into an MD vs. DO issue?!? Jesus Christ, that is really sick.
Congratulations on using this to advance your cause. :rolleyes:

I had a feeling my post would be misconstrued...

that was gentled nudged toward DO bashers. I suppose its ok to hop into our forums and bash the crap out of us but a gentle (tried anyway) reminder is perceived as an attack. Relax, here's a grain of salt...

my prayers do go to her, her family and ANYONE in need of transplants (not just the tragedies we read in the stupid media)
 
People make mistakes...I am glad that all of you perfect people who never make mistakes are going into medicine so that you can do a better job than the people at Duke who have done thousands of transplants and have so far made this mistake once. THe ego in here from people who are not even doctors is amazing.

By the way...with a good transplant her odds were about 50% that she would live another four years.
 
Just so you know that 50% number comes from the Collaborative Transplan Registry
 
Originally posted by indo
That post just shines with stupidity. Let that post be a lesson in humiliation for all pre-do's

An argument does not simply consist of a conclusion. Typically one must present premises by which the conclusion is logically and factually valid (or at least cogent)...

if you'd like:

PR1: If medical mistakes happen then we should focus on the source of the problem and ways to fix it.
PR2: If we should focus on the source of the problem and ways to fix it then fingers should not be pointed
C: If medical mistakes happen then fingers should not be pointed

All I'm saying is had this been a DO that messed up, the DO forum would've been pelted with hateful posts and all I was trying to do was make a point.

I wasn't trying to create a stir, if you aren't capable of seeing that my gesture was not meant to be rash, mean or hurtful then I will withdraw my posts...

*gathering grains of salt*
 
I see alot of anger on this particular thread, and nearly all of it is misdirected out of complete ignorance of how the transplant process actually works.

Far and away the most common cause of hyperacute rejection is clerical error, whether you're talking blood transfusions or organs. This has nothing whatsoever to do with the surgeons involved, the surgery residency program, and possibly not even the hospital. Specimens can get mislabeled at several points in the process, yes it happens. Is it really the surgeon's fault for transplanting these organs into this girl when they were labeled with a compatible blood type? Absolutely not, and I think its terrible that this girl's mother is already on the record blaming the doctor. When transplanted organs fail, people too often forget that any transplanted organ received (whether it fails or not) is an incredible, priceless gift. The profound sense of entitlement here is discouraging.

And finally, a word about this "compassionate businessman Maloney." Certainly no one can fault this guy for having the compassion to try and help this poor girl, but as a society we need to focus more on the greater good. Where are people like the good Mr. Maloney to combat issues like growing number of uninsured, people w/o access, and such? No doubt when this girl passes he will bankroll some huge lawsuit against Duke and the surgeons involved, thereby sapping even more money out of the system. So just keep his "contributions" in perspective as this unfolds.
 
Originally posted by dynx
People make mistakes...I am glad that all of you perfect people who never make mistakes are going into medicine so that you can do a better job than the people at Duke who have done thousands of transplants and have so far made this mistake once. .

yeah... i agree. although this was a baaaaad mistake and it is very very sad, everyone makes mistakes! that is what really ticks me off about the medical malpractice lawsuits in this country. why are doctors expected to be perfect when mistakes in other professions are not a big deal? i for one make mistakes all the time! it's how we learn! to expect doctors to be perfect all the time is asking too much. this is not saying there are not times when doctors are grossly negligent and should be held accountable for there mistakes, but i do think our society needs to be a little more forgiving of mistakes. this case really has nothing to do with the doctors b/c it's probably a clerical error, but i felt like going off on that little tangent anyway!
 
Originally posted by dynx
People make mistakes...I am glad that all of you perfect people who never make mistakes are going into medicine so that you can do a better job than the people at Duke who have done thousands of transplants and have so far made this mistake once. THe ego in here from people who are not even doctors is amazing.

By the way...with a good transplant her odds were about 50% that she would live another four years.

Good point. I'm certain I will make my mistakes, and then some. (Hey, I'm the guy who took two tries to get one venipuncture!)

That's not my point.

Medicine has become so impersonal. No longer do doctors diagnose the whole person, they shift him off to half a dozen specialists who prescribe him conflicting medications which are filled by some cheap online drug store in Zimbabwe and paid for out of Grandma's grocery budget (So Pfizer can take a rich Dr. out to eat). No longer are doctors scientists (and don't get started on how medicine is an art!), seeking to decipher a complex problem; if your symptoms don't match their "book of sicknesses" your disease apparently doesn't exist.

We don't get to the root of the problems - We patch the symptoms.
We hand out antibiotics without reason - and then wonder why MRSA exists.

No, this does not describe all doctors. I happen to know some extremely competent men who have earned every bit of respect that comes with the title "doctor". But more and more I find myself gritting my teeth and muttering "modern medicine".

Who is to blame? I am not sure. But I think we, as the next generation of physicians must learn to focus on the paitient. We are getting ready to begin "The Most Deadly Game", but to listen to all of the premeds, and medical students on here talking about getting drunk and having good time.....One no longer wonders why things like this happens.
*QHamp climbs off his soap box*

dynx, I wish to complement you, not only on getting those figures for us, but also giving us your source. Both thumbs up!
 
FireAway, I completely agree. I don't think anybody should be sued. As I stated before, this is a tragedy and nobody's fault. We need to learn from it. And to say that Duke or the surgeons are incompetent would be grossly oversimplifying the matter. But, having said that, I do understand the little girl's mother. I don't know if you guys ever lost someone very, very close to you, but when you do, there is a great deal of pain, confusion and anger. So, while I don't think it's justified, I do understand where her mom is coming from. Poor woman.

Outrage, I maintain.
Not the outrage towards the docs or Duke, or whoever fu*ked up, but outrage towards the sad fact of this world that bad things happen to good people for no reason.
To me, it's what keeps me going - yes, admittedly, sometimes like charging into the windmills. I know bad things will always happen, and I won't be able to stop them. But I will keep trying. It's all I can do. And the moment I loose the outrage is the moment I need to quit medicine.


So here's to the fruitless, yet relentless, attempt to help others down in the trenches of medicine.
 
QHamp, I disagree. What I'm wondering is how long she would have lived without the transplant? Since right now she is probably on the top of the list and is not finding a donor, does that mean without that mistake she would still be waiting for a donor today and if so how long would she have to live?

As it is, some poor bastard in the administrative staff probably made that mistake causing the disaster, and he/she will have to live with that mistake for the rest of their lives. First of all its wrong to blame people and doctors and Duke and everybody without knowing all the facts. Secondly, even if someone had made a mistake, we have to live with the fact that like most other things in life, a medical procedure is not going to be risk free. But unlike most other situations in life, you HAVE to take that risk because that risk gives you a chance to continue to live.

As the population grows and government endorsed HMOs continue to suck the life out of our healthcare sytem, administration of healthcare WILL undoubtedly become more impersonal and there isn't a thing that we as doctors(tobe) can do about it. One thing is for certain: law suits aren't going to help the situation and people should not be allowed to sue hospitals or competant doctors that acted with good intentions and without recklessness or extreme negligence. Or at the very least, a reasonable upper limit should be set on the dollar amount of the awards. And making a big deal out of this situation right now is only going to help the people that are trying to profit from this tragedy.
 
I see the major point of this tragedy as being the desperate need for more organs. How many people die each year waiting? Even if the girl gets a new heart/lung transplant, the heart and lungs currently in her have been wasted, and we don't have all that many. So everybody, tell your loved ones that you want your organs donated if they can be. The little marking on drivers licences is not legally binding - it's the immediate family that says yea or nay to organ donation. Make sure your loved ones know you want your organs donated.

God's got plenty of good organs in heaven - no need to take them with you!
 
Here, here adcadet...a good point indeed. It is an easy thing to do and yet so many people do not sign up to be organ doners.
 
One point based on the discussion that has already been made and one other point as well.

Firstly, I don't see at all the rationale for the pre-MD/pre-DO comment; it didn't seem to follow.

Secondly, (directed in the direction of the administrator of this particular forum)...is this really the right place for such a thread?
 
Originally posted by geromine

As the population grows and government endorsed HMOs continue to suck the life out of our healthcare sytem, administration of healthcare WILL undoubtedly become more impersonal and there isn't a thing that we as doctors(tobe) can do about it. One thing is for certain: law suits aren't going to help the situation and people should not be allowed to sue hospitals or competant doctors that acted with good intentions and without recklessness or extreme negligence. Or at the very least, a reasonable upper limit should be set on the dollar amount of the awards. And making a big deal out of this situation right now is only going to help the people that are trying to profit from this tragedy.


Please excuse me only quoting part of your statement. I always find it aggravating to read someone's post, and then have to scroll past it again in another person's reply. I found the last paragraph to be the best so I kept that one. ;)

To begin with, it is said she would have lived about 6 months without the transplant (see initial post). Of course now she is fighting for her life, so I'm not sure how long she can make it. I'm O-pos, maybe I should go kill myself so she can have my heart. :confused: I really feel for her.

Unfortunately, medicine is done by humans, or the creations of humans. Humans=error. What he need to eliminate , however, is humans=negligence. And you're right, most likely someone in the clerical, or even phlebotomist position is the one to blame.

I agree with you that lawsuits have their place, but they seem to have crawled out of that place and are now running rampant. If we hope for reform in medicine this is one thing that will need to be curbed.

However, I disagree with your statement that medicine will continue to become more impersonal. It is my firm belief that we can control these things. It is up to the next generations of doctors to decide which course it takes.

And may I say it again... "Know your limits (or the limits society places) ... then CRUSH 'EM!!!"

We CAN change health care, and change it for the better.
 
Originally posted by FireAway
I see alot of anger on this particular thread, and nearly all of it is misdirected out of complete ignorance of how the transplant process actually works.

Far and away the most common cause of hyperacute rejection is clerical error, whether you're talking blood transfusions or organs. This has nothing whatsoever to do with the surgeons involved, the surgery residency program, and possibly not even the hospital. Specimens can get mislabeled at several points in the process, yes it happens. Is it really the surgeon's fault for transplanting these organs into this girl when they were labeled with a compatible blood type? Absolutely not, and I think its terrible that this girl's mother is already on the record blaming the doctor. When transplanted organs fail, people too often forget that any transplanted organ received (whether it fails or not) is an incredible, priceless gift. The profound sense of entitlement here is discouraging.

I agree with FireAway. much of the discussion on this issue has place blame on the wrong person.

This is a "system" problem, not an individual's fault!

There are many problems in the system, but hospitals are difficult to change. VA has a nice system in which,

1) doctors directly enter their orders in the computer and nurses, PT's, etc. get them directly without going through any middle man.

2) nurses, before administering drugs, scan the label on the drug, as prepared by the pharmacist, to minimize errors.

This organ transplant fisascal is basically one of many clerical errors that occur in every hopsital every single day. Maybe Duke will pay millions dollars to settle a potential lawsuit, but you can bet that it will not pay millions of dollars to get a new computer system in place. Duke might place a couple manual safeguards in place instead (those are much cheaper).

Premeds who have not lived and breathed on the ward will not believe how low-tech and how error-prone our whole medical system is.
 
I understand people make mistakes, but I wish the poor girl didn't have to suffer because of it. She's now in critical condition and expected to live no more than a few days (kidneys have shut down). :( Just to reiterate what Gleevec mentioned earlier, be conscious of her well-being (and not just of your career aspirations) and don't forget to keep her in your prayers.
 
Originally posted by Thewonderer
This is a "system" problem, not an individual's fault!

Right on.


And thanks, All-Star, for helping to keep us in focus. Isn't this when John Donne's words mean so much: "...Every man's death diminishes me, for I am involved in mankind"
 
I'm praying for this girl everyday. I hope some organs become available soon and she can pull through. I can't imagine what her family is going through right now. :(

Originally posted by Thewonderer
This is a "system" problem, not an individual's fault!

This organ transplant fisascal is basically one of many clerical errors that occur in every hopsital every single day. Maybe Duke will pay millions dollars to settle a potential lawsuit, but you can bet that it will not pay millions of dollars to get a new computer system in place. Duke might place a couple manual safeguards in place instead (those are much cheaper).
Thewonderer- I'm afraid you're right. Duke f#cked up and will probably pay some kind of compensation to this poor family (as they should), but probably won't put half that amount of money into their system with checks that could've prevented this mistake in the first place.

Duke has already admitted as much and said that it was an error in their system and they're taking means to have double-checks put into place.

Well, I'm sorry, but they should have had these double-checks put into place when they took on the responsibility of transplanting peoples' organs! Yes, simple human errors happen, but the real error here is not having the common sense (or the responsibility) to have checks in place to catch those human errors. I'm angry that something like this probably could've been avoided. :mad:
 
"By the way...with a good transplant her odds were about 50% that she would live another four years."

Somehow, I don't think the little girls' family is seeing the relevancy of this point right now. :rolleyes:

"There are many problems in the system, but hospitals are difficult to change. VA has a nice system in which,

1) doctors directly enter their orders in the computer and nurses, PT's, etc. get them directly without going through any middle man.

2) nurses, before administering drugs, scan the label on the drug, as prepared by the pharmacist, to minimize errors.
"

Too bad more hospitals aren't putting in more safeguards like how VA hospitals are. There was something several years ago in the news how a FL or GA hospital (somewhere in the South) took off a man's *good* leg and left him with his bad one (which had needed amputated in the first place). I can't remember the details, but regardless, s.h.i.t like this shouldn't be happening because there are idiotproof methods that these hospitals could use.
 
Originally posted by All-Star14
She's now in critical condition and expected to live no more than a few days (kidneys have shut down).
This is not good.

No matter if you're religious or not, studies show that "positive thinking" (what religious people call "prayer") actually works. And when it's done by a mass of people all at once, it works even better.

Whether it be through a Higher Power (as spiritual people think)or through brain waves (as scientists may think) or through some "Collective Consciousness" (as New Age Thinkers regard it), it can work.

Everyone reading this - please stop what you're doing and take 5 seconds to think positive thoughts for this person. I totally believe that it could help (it certainly can't hurt).
 
No matter how you look at it, or what the causes were, it is a horrible mistake. If this girl survives, she and her family have been put through an incredible amount of pain and suffering. I really feel for all of the people involved.

I feel sorry for the organ donor's family. No doubt his/her family has heard about this tragedy and are second guessing their decision to donate their loved one's organs. The stress and guilt that they are going through must be enormous. I know that the donor family probably doesn't know for certain that this is the girl who got the organs, but any family who recently donated organs will probably always wonder if their family member's organs were the cause of this girl's death. I feel sorry for any of the staff that were involved, for they are the one's that will have to live with this the rest of their lives. I also feel for the person who could have benefitted from receiving the organs. Due to someone's mistake, perfectly good organs most likely did not reach someone in need. The whole situation is tragic.
 
Originally posted by FireAway
And finally, a word about this "compassionate businessman Maloney." Certainly no one can fault this guy for having the compassion to try and help this poor girl, but as a society we need to focus more on the greater good. Where are people like the good Mr. Maloney to combat issues like growing number of uninsured, people w/o access, and such? No doubt when this girl passes he will bankroll some huge lawsuit against Duke and the surgeons involved, thereby sapping even more money out of the system. So just keep his "contributions" in perspective as this unfolds.

I agree. That's the FIRST thing I thought about when I read this article.
Otherwise, this is an interesting case. It highlights how much we are all dependent on others doing their jobs right, from secretaries to surgeons.
 
Originally posted by QHamp
Good point. I'm certain I will make my mistakes, and then some. (Hey, I'm the guy who took two tries to get one venipuncture!)

If I had been your patients, you probably would have taken at least 6 tries... Even the best phlebotomists can rarely get me on the first try. Should I sue them??? :p
 
"All I'm saying is had this been a DO that messed up, the DO forum would've been pelted with hateful posts and all I was trying to do was make a point."

DO vs MD is not the subject of this thread. you can post these subjects elsewhere. there are several of these threads in the DO forum.
 
Originally posted by HouseHead
If I had been your patients, you probably would have taken at least 6 tries... Even the best phlebotomists can rarely get me on the first try. Should I sue them??? :p

Naw..We have our checks in place. If I can't get it after my 2nd try, I'm supposed to get another phlebotomist. If she can't get it, we have to fetch a nurse, and if she can't get it we go call the physician, and let him draw it.

So in the end, you get to sue the physician. :D :D :D
 
What a horrible, horrible mistake....but mistakes happen, to everyone. If it be clerical, administrative, or physician, it really doesn't matter. Yes there should be checks in place....and their are... IN EVERY HOSPITAL. Perhaps those checks weren't followed? The article doesn't say, but if they weren't it still boils down to human error. Come on, each of us has made errors in lab, class, personal, or other parts of our lives simply because of weariness, or just plain forgetfulness. I don't hold anyone to blame....unless there is a pattern of problems. Of course it should be looked into, documented, and recorded. We are too quick as a society to blame others for misfortune....accidents happen just because we are human. Personally I have discovered Three different errors with my childs medications in the last two years....do I blame the physician? NO!! He (and a pharmacist) made a mistake....once misreading my childs weight and once forgetting what my child was already taking (failing to notice drug interactions) They are both exceptional people with exceptional skills in medicine...they just each made a mistake...it happens to everyone. If we want to remove the possibility of error, then we must remove the human aspect from medicine......OH WAIT, THAT would be too impersonal. You can't have it both ways. WE clamour for the personal touch AND perfection....it doesn't work that way! We have to choose. We've worked out compromise...it's not perfect, but it does lend itself to a system of checks, AND an element of personal attention. At times the system wins and we lose the personal touch, and at other times the human side wins out with all it's weaknesses.

Organ donation is such a priceless, precious gift. The donor family should be proud to have offered that gift to someone. One of my dearest friends (bridesmaid in my wedding) had a heart attack at the age of 37 (undiagnosed genetic malformation) and was on life support for two months with no hope of recovery. I watched as her husband and three small boys visited almost every day. Her children ages 2,4, and 7 would grow up without ever knowing their mother, and her husband would raise those boys without the loving touch of a mother.....EXCEPT for a miracle. As my friend Virginia lay on life support unable to breath on her own and barely able to raise her arm (it took all her strength to do so), a family somewhere lost a loved one....someone young, someone they cared for, and they chose to give their loved ones organs in their time of greif. What an immeasureable gift!!! Two weeks after her transplant, Virginia was home holding her precious little boys on her lap, and singing them good night songs (she is an accomplished vocalist). Virginia and her family knew the risks...both the obvious ones of rejection, and the human ones, but it was worth the risks. Why? Because without taking them, Virginia would not be alive. I'm not sure of the source but I heard once during the time virginia was in the hospital that for every one heart transplant, nearly 5000 people die waiting for a transplant. There is no guarantee that the girl in the article would have been one of the lucky ones...in fact, odds are against it.
 
Any word on her progress/decline?

Perhaps those checks weren't followed?

CD - The Duke people said in the news that their system could have had more checks and that they are now adding them. :rolleyes:

Unfortunately, it's a little too late for this patient. :(
 
DURHAM, N.C. Feb. 20 ?
Another organ donor has been found for a 17-year-old girl clinging to life after she received organs that didn't match her blood type, a spokeswoman said.

The surgery was scheduled Thursday morning, and it has a 50-50 chance of success, said Renee McCormick, a spokeswoman for Jesica's Hope Chest. The organ was found at 1 a.m. Thursday, she said.

McCormick said she didn't know who donated the organs, but they were donated directly to Jesica Santillan, who mistakenly received a heart and lungs incompatible with her type O-positive blood during a transplant Feb. 7 at Duke University Hospital. She has been in critical condition.

McCormick called the new organs an "incredibly good match." "We are elated," she told CNN. "The family is overjoyed."
Jesica's condition steadily deteriorated after the botched operation, and she suffered a heart attack Feb. 10 and a seizure on Sunday. A machine has kept her heart and lungs going, and a scan Wednesday found no signs of brain damage, said McCormick.
Jesica's body was rejecting the new organs because of the different blood types. Antibodies in her blood attacked the organs as foreign objects.

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Good luck, Jesica!!!


According to newsobserver.com, the surgeon, Dr. James Jaggers, has told the family that, in a rush, he didn't check the organs' blood type when they reached Duke Hospital.

I appreciate his honesty. Let's take the oppurtunity learn from his mistake.
 
Oh.
My.
God.

That is the most amazing thing I ever heard of.

I hope she makes it.
 
Originally posted by surge
Oh.
My.
God.

That is the most amazing thing I ever heard of.

I hope she makes it.
I hope she makes it too! Lord knows she needs a break.
 
As of 8:30 PST, Jessica is doing well and the heart is beating on its own!
 
Originally posted by geromine
heart AND lung transplant!!?
I'm thinking that she probably didn't have a good chance for long term survival even if she had received the right transplants.

Sorry I'm a day or two behind on this one, but that comment is pretty upsetting. If treatment isn't guaranteed to be curative, then it shouldn't be attempted?
 
Originally posted by Ginza
Sorry I'm a day or two behind on this one, but that comment is pretty upsetting. If treatment isn't guaranteed to be curative, then it shouldn't be attempted?

:rolleyes:

So we shouldn't treat any cancer patientswith drugs that merely prolong their lives or anyone at all with experimental procedures? With this line of thinking, we wouldn't have any drugs or treatments to use at all!
 
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By WILLIAM L. HOLMES, Associated Press Writer

DURHAM, N.C. - A 17-year-old girl underwent a second heart-lung transplant Thursday, two weeks after a botched transplant with organs of the wrong blood type left her near death.


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The family of Jesica Santillan was elated early Thursday when it learned that donated organs had been shown to be a good match, said supporters who raised funds for the girl.


Jesica, who has type O-positive blood, was given a heart and lungs from a donor with type A blood in a transplant Feb. 7 at Duke University Hospital. Her condition steadily deteriorated as her body rejected the new organs.


A second set of organs was located late Wednesday and transplanted into Jesica in a four-hour operation Thursday morning, hospital spokesman Jeffrey Molter said.


Renee McCormick, spokeswoman for a charity raising money for Jesica's care, said her heart was beating on its own afterward. Molter said she was still breathing with the help of a ventilator and was in critical condition, which is standard in such cases.


"This is a very serious surgery," Molter said. "We are hopeful that these organs will support her."


The procedure has a 50-50 success rate, said Mack Mahoney, a leader in fund-raising efforts to pay for the girl's medical care.


"So far, so good," McCormick said. "Her parents feel some relief right now. Everyone is incredibly hopeful and we're just so pleased, so thankful."


Lloyd Jordan of Carolina Donor Services said the donor family had requested anonymity. He said the donation was not "directed" ? that is, the family did not specifically request that the organs be given to Jesica.


"We consider all donors and their families to be heroes," Jordan said. "These are the people who make the gift of life possible."


Jesica, who is from a small town near Guadalajara, Mexico, needed a transplant because a heart deformity kept her lungs from getting oxygen into her blood. Doctors said she would have died within six months without it.


The fact that a new set of compatible organs became available as Jesica neared death was "an amazingly good thing," Molter said. He noted that 80 percent of people awaiting transplants die before organs can be found.


"I think the word is getting out about organ donations. And in some ways, I think Jesica is a very lucky little girl," he said.


Heart-lung transplants have been routine since the mid-1980s. About 70 percent of recipients survive at least one year, and 40 percent are still alive after five years. Common causes of death include failure of the transplanted organs and lung inflammation.


Jesica was not out of the woods after Thursday's operation. She suffered kidney damage and may have brain damage or paralysis from the machines used to keep her alive in the two weeks after the first transplant, Mahoney said.


"We'll have to deal with those if they occur," he said.


Dr. James Jaggers, lead surgeon on the first transplant, performed the second operation Thursday, and Mahoney said he doesn't blame the doctor for the failure of the first.





"We have faith in the surgeon," he said. "We feel there was a grave mistake made. We do not question his skill as a surgeon."

Molter said several times that Duke acknowledges its mistake.

"We do apologize again for the blood type mismatch," he said. "That did in fact make her condition worse."

Jaggers said Wednesday he believed appropriate checks were made before the first set of organs was offered to the girl. After that surgery, the hospital added another level of verification for organ compatibility, and Molter said the new procedures were followed before Thursday's surgery.

A spokeswoman for the United Network for Organ Sharing, which matches organs and recipients, said her organization has asked Duke, along with the two organ procurement agencies that helped arrange the donation, to report to it on the events leading to Jesica's first transplant surgery. Recommendations for corrective action could follow, spokeswoman Anne Paschke said.

Duke must also answer to the agency that accredits hospitals, which investigates unusual deaths that might signal a problem with the hospital's system.

Those probes are likely to take several weeks.

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i'm glad things are looking brighter for her.

however, playing the devil's advocate, one must wonder if placing her on the "fast-track" for another set of organs is the best thing to do. duke's reputation on the line as well as the sentiments of america were probably major factors in getting her a second set of organs when the remaining 80% of those on the list don't even get a single chance. however, it's been mentioned that her kidneys are damaged and she will likely have major brain damage. if so, would getting these new sets of really be the most beneficial use of the organs? i.e. the other 80% of patients in the final stages might be healthier and make better use of them. i think everyone wants to fix a mistake, but at what point is trying to fix something not necessarily the best approach? waht's everyone's opinion? (i haven't followed the story closely enough to know all the details, so fill me in on the updates).
 
Wow...i just heard the news. I hope she makes a speedy recovery. I also read that the same surgeon who did the first transplant did the second.
 
bless her and hope she makes it
 
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