2023-2024 UCLA (Geffen)

[PreMed Student 010111]

yeppp same I can’t justify 400k of debt. If I get off the MSTP waitlist then ofc I’ll go, but otherwise I’m going to my state school where I got a full ride 💀🥲

Wishing you the best with that! think it is also sorta BS that you have to pay for your summer year too. I have never seen a school require students to pay for their summer. State school sounds like the best course of action aka the least amount of money to owe.

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[pandastory]

Are we cooked? Did UCLA rly only give out 1 scholarship this year?

 

[Idea_12]

Are we cooked? Did UCLA rly only give out 1 scholarship this year?

I looked back at last year and six students were posting about full tuition scholarships on March 10th, one student said fin aid had written them that all scholarships had been committed by March 17th, and one student wrote on May 2nd that their previously awarded full tuition was upgraded to a COA scholarship.

OR OR...hot take...maybe they have been intentionally not communicating effectively because on second look weekend they will say EVERYONE GETS A SCHOLARSHIP.

 

[porkandbeans8888]

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I looked back at last year and six students were posting about full tuition scholarships on March 10th, one student said fin aid had written them that all scholarships had been committed by March 17th, and one student wrote on May 2nd that their previously awarded full tuition was upgraded to a COA scholarship.

OR OR...hot take...maybe they have been intentionally not communicating effectively because on second look weekend they will say EVERYONE GETS A SCHOLARSHIP.

Oprah Winfrey ahh pal 💀

 

[pandastory]

I looked back at last year and six students were posting about full tuition scholarships on March 10th, one student said fin aid had written them that all scholarships had been committed by March 17th, and one student wrote on May 2nd that their previously awarded full tuition was upgraded to a COA scholarship.

OR OR...hot take...maybe they have been intentionally not communicating effectively because on second look weekend they will say EVERYONE GETS A SCHOLARSHIP.

probably not since someone said that they received a scholarship

 

[hrstar10]

Is not going to Accepted Students Week a bad thing? I have so many family problems going on right now that I don't know if I'll be able to make it. But just scared about missing important stuff. I'm from California and can go at any time to check out the campus.

 

[Morningnight]

Is not going to Accepted Students Week a bad thing? I have so many family problems going on right now that I don't know if I'll be able to make it. But just scared about missing important stuff. I'm from California and can go at any time to check out the campus.

Not missing anything. I would say Accepted Student events are more for people who are on the fence about attending a school -- you might get that little push from attending these events. Since you're from CA, reach out to admissions and they'll find a student who will happily take you on a tour and maybe even join in on some classes. Take care of your family first. School will be here waiting afterwards.

 

[dope.uh.mean]

In the luckiest of chances that we do get off the waitlist, how long do we have to accept the offer and make a decision (ie, PTE or CTE?)

reach out to admissions and they'll find a student who will happily take you on a tour and maybe even join in on some classes.

And would it be appropriate to reach out to admissions for this^ if we are on the waitlist? Since WL folks are not invited to second look

 

[Wzd472]

Hey yall, so I was also waitlisted here and wanted to ask when is the last day to formally accept an acceptance on the AAMC portal? Like is it April 30th? Because I'm sure I won't get off the waitlist by then, so I'm not sure whether I have that time to wait or I have to make a choice by April 30? 😭

 

[everythingis onfire]

Hey yall, so I was also waitlisted here and wanted to ask when is the last day to formally accept an acceptance on the AAMC portal? Like is it April 30th? Because I'm sure I won't get off the waitlist by then, so I'm not sure whether I have that time to wait or I have to make a choice by April 30? 😭

Here are the AAMC acceptance protocols.

By April 15, you have to narrow your acceptances down to three (you can remain on as many WL as you want).

By April 30, you have to narrow down your acceptances to one school and “plan to enroll” there. You can still hold WL positions after April 30.

The “commit to enroll” (CTE) is more binding and removes you from any other waitlist, but this deadline is later and depends on schools, with most being in June.

If you have any other A’s, you have to “plan to enroll” at one of them by April 30 or else you risk it getting rescinded because after April 30 schools start to see more detailed information about who is holding multiple acceptances, who hasn’t selected their school, etc. If you get off the WL at another school after April 30, you have to notify your PTE school as soon as possible so they can pull from their WL as well.

 

[porkandbeans8888]

Here are the AAMC acceptance protocols.

By April 15, you have to narrow your acceptances down to three (you can remain on as many WL as you want).

By April 30, you have to narrow down your acceptances to one school and “plan to enroll” there. You can still hold WL positions after April 30.

The “commit to enroll” (CTE) is more binding and removes you from any other waitlist, but this deadline is later and depends on schools, with most being in June.

If you have any other A’s, you have to “plan to enroll” at one of them by April 30 or else you risk it getting rescinded because after April 30 schools start to see more detailed information about who is holding multiple acceptances, who hasn’t selected their school, etc. If you get off the WL at another school after April 30, you have to notify your PTE school as soon as possible so they can pull from their WL as well.

If you’re accepted into less than 3 places, do you have to do anything?

 

[everythingis onfire]

If you’re accepted into less than 3 places, do you have to do anything?

You have to pick one of them to plan to enroll at by April 30

 

[Wzd472]

Here are the AAMC acceptance protocols.

By April 15, you have to narrow your acceptances down to three (you can remain on as many WL as you want).

By April 30, you have to narrow down your acceptances to one school and “plan to enroll” there. You can still hold WL positions after April 30.

The “commit to enroll” (CTE) is more binding and removes you from any other waitlist, but this deadline is later and depends on schools, with most being in June.

If you have any other A’s, you have to “plan to enroll” at one of them by April 30 or else you risk it getting rescinded because after April 30 schools start to see more detailed information about who is holding multiple acceptances, who hasn’t selected their school, etc. If you get off the WL at another school after April 30, you have to notify your PTE school as soon as possible so they can pull from their WL as well.

Thank you so much for the clarification! I was internally freaking out lol 😭✨️

 

[Morningnight]

In the luckiest of chances that we do get off the waitlist, how long do we have to accept the offer and make a decision (ie, PTE or CTE?)

I'm blanking on the exact timeline, but it was something along the lines of 10 days to decide once you get an offer off waitlist. You can ask for a little more time by asking them directly.

And would it be appropriate to reach out to admissions for this^ if we are on the waitlist? Since WL folks are not invited to second look

Feel free to ask! I don't think it hurts, but understandably they may prioritize accepted folks first.

 

[porkandbeans8888]

You have to pick one of them to plan to enroll at by April 30

But on April 15 I don’t have to do anything right?

 

[Premedappli]

I got an email from AAMC mentioning that by April 30th:

"Selecting “Commit to Enroll” indicates that you have made a final selection and withdrawn all other applications, including alternate list offers. "

Does this mean that when April 30th arrives, if I want to still be on the waitlist, I should not choose the commit to enroll option? I though that there was a mandate to choose this option on April 30th? Thank you!

 

[DocImaynalla]

I got an email from AAMC mentioning that by April 30th:

"Selecting “Commit to Enroll” indicates that you have made a final selection and withdrawn all other applications, including alternate list offers. "

Does this mean that when April 30th arrives, if I want to still be on the waitlist, I should not choose the commit to enroll option? I though that there was a mandate to choose this option on April 30th? Thank you!

My understanding is to PTE by April 30th. PTE at one of your acceptances and may hold as many WL as you have.
Most school's CTE deadlines are in June/July.

 

[2023applicantxd]

how are you doing @amateurbater

 

[amateurbater]

how are you doing @amateurbater

Thugging it out

 

[everythingis onfire]

Thugging it out

amateurbater ❌
ProThugger ✅

 

[madamemichaelscott]

Withdrew my A, all the best to everyone hoping for good news here!

 

[6'0 OGFLYERCI]

Lowkey I feel like there is about to be mass waitlist movement for us WL homies who don't mind taking out more money to go to ucla lol

 

[mysteryman020]

Lowkey I feel like there is about to be mass waitlist movement for us WL homies who don't mind taking out more money to go to ucla lol

yup this is probably why there's 150 acceptances off the waitlist out of 250. Someone I know got off the waitlist at wake forest a few years ago and essentially they said all the scholarships were done

 

[pandastory]

Lowkey I feel like there is about to be mass waitlist movement for us WL homies who don't mind taking out more money to go to ucla lol

Yeah, this is what everyone during second look was discussing. LOTS of WL movement prob incoming

 

[dope.uh.mean]

If yall don't mind sharing, what does tuition+coa look like for our cohort? I could only find 2023-2024 info online

 

[Opuntia]

If yall don't mind sharing, what does tuition+coa look like for our cohort? I could only find 2023-2024 info online

As an OOS student, my award letter showed that the total COA for M1 is $105,194.

• Total Non-Resident Tuition and Fees: $63,105
  • Tuition and Fees (Resident with Student Health Insurance): $50,492
  • Non-Resident Tuition: $12,613
• Living Expenses: $42,089
• Total Estimated Cost of Attendance for 1st Year: $105,194

So, as an OOS student, I would have to take out ~$420,000 in loans. Will be withdrawing my A! Seems like a wonderful med school, but I am planning to follow scholarship money elsewhere <3

Edit: thanks @aceegreene for the update! Including three summer semesters ($17,500 x 3 summers), it would cost me $472,500 over four years LOL

 

[h0peful_premed]

Did they share in second look the reason behind the lack of scholarships this year? are they done giving them out?

 

[jefe_piglet]

As an OOS student, my award letter showed that the total COA for M1 is $105,194.

• Total Non-Resident Tuition and Fees: $63,105
  • Tuition and Fees (Resident with Student Health Insurance): $50,492
  • Non-Resident Tuition: $12,613
• Living Expenses: $42,089
• Total Estimated Cost of Attendance for 1st Year: $105,194

So, as an OOS student, I would have to take out ~$420,000 in loans. Will be withdrawing my A! Seems like a wonderful med school, but I am planning to follow scholarship money elsewhere QUOTE]

Seriously thank you so much for this insight!

 

[aceegreene]

As an OOS student, my award letter showed that the total COA for M1 is $105,194.

• Total Non-Resident Tuition and Fees: $63,105
  • Tuition and Fees (Resident with Student Health Insurance): $50,492
  • Non-Resident Tuition: $12,613
• Living Expenses: $42,089
• Total Estimated Cost of Attendance for 1st Year: $105,194

So, as an OOS student, I would have to take out ~$420,000 in loans. Will be withdrawing my A! Seems like a wonderful med school, but I am planning to follow scholarship money elsewhere <3

This excludes summer semester costs which are in addition to what @Opuntia reported. From 2024-2025 onwards there will be 3 summer semesters, each of which according to 2023-2024 estimates cost about 17.5k each.

 

[moonshapedpooll]

Did they share in second look the reason behind the lack of scholarships this year? are they done giving them out?

funds just running low, and they got rid of the geffen schoalrship

 

[mysteryman020]

Aight guys I’ll donate a couple billion

 

[Premedappli]

Aight guys I’ll donate a couple billion

Thank you!!..lol

 

[Roux22]

Withdrew my A, all the best to everyone hoping for good news here!

+1

Loved the school but couldn’t afford it even w scholarships. Best of luck to everyone going forward

 

[everythingis onfire]

This excludes summer semester costs which are in addition to what @Opuntia reported. From 2024-2025 onwards there will be 3 summer semesters, each of which according to 2023-2024 estimates cost about 17.5k each.

I’m confused about this whole summer thing. Isn’t that normally included in tuition?

 

[aceegreene]

I’m confused about this whole summer thing. Isn’t that normally included in tuition?

How Much Does Medical School Cost? | UCLA Med School

How much is medical school? We offer medical school scholarships, grants, and loans to make acquiring a med degree accessible for everyone.

medschool.ucla.edu

So what Opuntia reported is cost of 1st year. 2nd year onward you have summers, which are additional cost. And yes you’re right most schools I’ve seen have it included within the academic year cost but it’s different at ucla.

 

[everythingis onfire]

How Much Does Medical School Cost? | UCLA Med School

How much is medical school? We offer medical school scholarships, grants, and loans to make acquiring a med degree accessible for everyone.

medschool.ucla.edu

So what Opuntia reported is cost of 1st year. 2nd year onward you have summers, which are additional cost. And yes you’re right most schools I’ve seen have it included within the academic year cost but it’s different at ucla.

I see. Thanks!

 

[madamemichaelscott]

+1

Loved the school but couldn’t afford it even w scholarships. Best of luck to everyone going forward

Exactly why I withdrew, sad

 

[garnmonster]

funds just running low, and they got rid of the geffen schoalrship

as if applicants have lots of funds lol

 

[SultanateIV]

I also withdrew my acceptance, I loved UCLA and I hope that they can get the funds to give more scholarships out in the future! I was super excited about this one because I knew about the Geffen scholarship, but I withdrew after knowing that they had canceled it

 

[Premedappli]

Has anyone talked with the financial office to make sure that the Geffen scholarship is no longer offered? Did they bring a reason why this year suddenly things have changed?

 

[amateurbater]

Has anyone talked with the financial office to make sure that the Geffen scholarship is no longer offered? Did they bring a reason why this year suddenly things have changed?

UCLA has waitlist motion but not motion like this:

 

[Debeney]

Has anyone talked with the financial office to make sure that the Geffen scholarship is no longer offered? Did they bring a reason why this year suddenly things have changed?

During second look they mentioned they’re not going to be as competitive this year because they’re low on funds. David Geffen’s last donation to continue the scholarship was in 2019 which was estimated to cover about 414 scholarships ending with the class of 2026.

More than 400 UCLA medical school students get a free education thanks to major donation

A $46-million donation from entertainment billionaire David Geffen means 414 medical school students are receiving full tuition merit scholarships

www.latimes.com

 

[Jaylife]

During second look they mentioned they’re not going to be as competitive this year because they’re low on funds. David Geffen’s last donation to continue the scholarship was in 2019 which was estimated to cover about 414 scholarships ending with the class of 2026.

More than 400 UCLA medical school students get a free education thanks to major donation

A $46-million donation from entertainment billionaire David Geffen means 414 medical school students are receiving full tuition merit scholarships

www.latimes.com

Class of 2027 also did receive full rides and full tuition but you’re right, the funds have ran dry this year

 

[quinone1234]

Has anyone talked with the financial office to make sure that the Geffen scholarship is no longer offered? Did they bring a reason why this year suddenly things have changed?

My sibling who was accepted here attended their Wednesday office hours recently and they said the Geffen Scholarship is no longer offered this year since the donation/funding from it finished.

 

[h0peful_premed]

funds just running low, and they got rid of the geffen schoalrship

They said this?

TY

 

[bluejay09]

Anyone else on the WL receive the email about the final happy hour? Never received an email from them about these so I’m not sure why they sent one today🥲

 

[everythingis onfire]

Anyone else on the WL receive the email about the final happy hour? Never received an email from them about these so I’m not sure why they sent one today🥲

I got it as well, but I’ve also gotten all the previous ones.

This one had a typo

 

[everythingis onfire]

I know it says they don’t accept letters of intent, but is a letter of interest okay to send? Last year’s thread had a lot of WL A’s who said they sent nothing, but I’m not sure what to do lol

 

[JupiterFrog]

I know it says they don’t accept letters of intent, but is a letter of interest okay to send? Last year’s thread had a lot of WL A’s who said they sent nothing, but I’m not sure what to do lol

I was also curious about this. I drafted one, but then ultimately didn't send worrying that it could hurt my prospects when it seems that they don't want or accept them.

 

[everythingis onfire]

I was also curious about this. I drafted one, but then ultimately didn't send worrying that it could hurt my prospects when it seems that they don't want or accept them.

So they want me to play hard to get?